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[frannyan]

Someone on my list has to know an intelegent, open minded Muslim...

I just had a very long argument/converstaion with a very closed minded Muslim... who beleives that man was basicly created to be God's slave and then you should not question anything.

And my brain cannot fathem why anyone would want to beleive in a religion that basicly tells you to be a mindless sheep and do what your told. So, someone who's not going to blindly argue a book [no dissrespect for the Quran, buuut... ] , please give me your view on your religion and why you beleive in it? Just to get... something to contrast this dudes... STUPID blind faith. Disbeleiveing facts because they don't agree with his world view stupid.

I may post the conversation later... just be warned there's some purpously inflamatory remarks about Muslims and the Quran in it. [verbal slaps in the face basicly] And much heavy debate that's largely Jewish vs Muslim beleifs.

.. yeah, I should have been workign on my paper, however...

Comments

Charismatic here...

[shardypsykoelf.livejournal.com]

Don't feel bad, I have a psychology proposal due tomorrow morning, that I haven't started on. ^^;;

As for my religious views, I'm a Charismatic (Mystic Christian). I believe strongly in this because nothing can describe the feeling of knowing one is not alone, that he/she is loved unconditionally. To me, the details of doctrine, of what really happened back when, do not matter to me. My Christ loves me, and that's all that matters. As long as I stick to my own moral code, I know I'll be okay.

It might be a blind faith, but that's the problem with people today. They want to know too much. They're so desperate in finding the "right path" that they forget to look within themselves. That is what a mystic does. She looks into herself to find what she seeks. Because that's where God dwells. Not high in the sky far away from the world. He dwells in the heart. Facts, dates, strict doctrines that segregate, judge, condemn...that's not faith. Take for example, the crucifixion of Jesus. When or where it takes place doesn't matter. WHY he went through with it does.

I don't claim to know anything. I'm just as stupid and blind and ignorant as everyone else in this chaotically twisting world. But this is still my view.

Re: Charismatic here...

[franthenut.livejournal.com]

But you're still seeking. It's not a blind faith, because you came to it yourself. You know why it's the faith that is best for you. There's a difference.

[franthenut.livejournal.com]

Blind faith is believing everything you're told without question and getting angry at those who hold different views. Like militant Creationists who say that there is no way possible that evolution occurs because it says in the Bible that God created the world in seven days so it MUST BE TRUE.

Having faith and having blind faith are different things. I can have faith that there is a higher being out there who loves me without having to believe that every word that the Bible or the Vatican or other authorities say is true.

[shardypsykoelf.livejournal.com]

Well, God created the world, but it never says that evolution did NOT occur. So, it can be a little bit of both.

[saendie.livejournal.com]

Huh...I'm not nearly as articulate as the previous posters but I guess I like my religion for what it can do for *me*. Born and raised in Italy, I'm obviously a Catholic. But..yeah, the Catholic church has its flaws--a ton of them--and while I won't defend the morons, all I can say is that when I walk into the cathedral I only listen to my heart. The bishop and others can blabber all they want. I'll go through the ceremonies (and boy are there a lot of them) but in the end, it's not what is said and done, it's what your soul feels. It's hard to put into words. The Catholic faith has done a lot of stupid shit. From the Inquisition to the molestation trials...but those acts were done by humans. And humans sure are dumb bells at times.
My view on the Muslim/Islam faith is a lot like my views on every other religion. A good idea turned bad by stupid humans. I'm sure at first it was a good thing, but like the Bible, stuff was added and changed, and too many people just blindly follow it without thinking if it's right or wrong. Religions are all messed up at some point, but if your soul is telling you 'this is the one for ME' then that's what you should go for. Ah, rambling at 11pm. Sorry if none of this makes sense.

[psi-yamaneko.livejournal.com]

Buddhist born, Buddhist raised.

This religion works for me because it has no book. It is a psychology and a philosophy as well as a Religion. It gives you a freedom of choice but lets feel connected with the world and all of life. Me. It makes ME feel connected. I don't do the prayers to the Gohonzon as much as I probably should but I hold a fundamentally Buddhist outlook on life: Anything is possible if you would only believe it is possible.

[interstellar.livejournal.com]

My school is 90% Muslim. So... when I bitch about racism/equality/religion, this is pretty much what I mean. There are many sweet, good, kind and open-minded people, as with any religion, but unfortunately their prejudiced and closed-minded counterparts are much more vocal.

I'm an athiest, so... ^^;; But I'm investigating Buddhism. The branch I'm interested in seems open-minded enough to allow me to do my own thing, with only a few basic governing laws *nods*

[franthenut.livejournal.com]

Hence the "I know there have to be intelligent ones out there somewhere...."

And Buddhism is good for being able to encompass other things. Judy is a Jew [very definitely to her own mind] with some very strong Zen leanings [she reads my Zen books and goes "Yeah. That's what I think too."] and some pagan leanings gathered from others. But those are both things that can stretch to let others in.

[mostlyarmless.livejournal.com]

There's something so comforting in knowing that you're not alone. There's also the same comforting feeling in knowing what you're supposed to do and not worrying about all the possibilities. Some people would rather have a certainty in their life than a series of big what if's to add stress to their lives. This I've found to be true through observation.

Book recommendation

[sylvar.livejournal.com]

A History of God (http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/wcpa/ow/c1ae10c1399bd9efa19afeb4da09e526.html) by Karen Armstrong

It's a great history of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Re: Book recommendation

[shardypsykoelf.livejournal.com]

Oooh...theology history. Nice! Very interesting stuff.